南斯拉夫的死亡 The Death of Yugoslavia(1995)
又名: 南斯拉夫之死
导演: BBC
编剧: BBC
主演: 米洛舍维奇 约瑟普·布罗兹·铁托 阿道夫·希特勒 Adolf Hitler 约翰·梅杰 比尔·克林顿 鲍里斯·尼古拉耶维奇·叶利钦 雅克·希拉克
制片国家/地区: 英国
上映日期: 1995
集数: 5 单集片长: 50min IMDb: tt0283181 豆瓣评分：8.6 下载地址：迅雷下载
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- 色彩：彩色
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- 【有时间会回来细写的这是草稿w】
在油管上看的单视频版，接近五个小时，第一次刷了四分之一，第二次两天内刷完了，纯因为两周内要去萨拉热窝，也预订了war tour，看这部也是出于作功课的心理。
这部纪录片摄制完成于95年的dayton talk完成六个月后，看似时间间隔很短但是又恰到好处。几年后又一波动乱在巴尔干岛上爆发，而片中采访到的一些人物也因为战争中犯下的罪行开始被追究而展开了逃亡。在这个时间点讲述这场南斯拉夫的死亡正好。
BBC在这部纪录片里祭出的都是顶级的干货，上至总统国务卿下至大屠杀亲历者，当事人【大概除了那位不幸遇害的克罗地亚东部警区总负责人】都对某个时段发生的事件进行了回忆，讲述了自己的看法。和很多回忆战争和大屠杀的纪录片不同的是，大概是因为摄制时间离真正结束较短的缘故，很多人回忆起当时仍然对自己的愤怒，对其他种族的厌恶仇恨不加掩饰。为了客观复述事件，片中也频繁运用了讲述角度的切换。可以说开启南斯拉夫死亡模式的米洛克维奇在采访时仍然干净撇清自己和种族屠杀指令的关系，然而片中在他否认的言辞后立即插入了当地塞尔维亚人领导的证词：“他（米洛克维奇）派了人手来我们这里”。可谓直接打脸。
个人感慨万千的是，看完全片会发现，主要的几个领导人，包括克罗地亚总统和波黑总统，都称不上无辜，对于战争中平民流离失所，种族大清洗等人间惨剧他们个个都难辞其咎。战争中受到伤害的永远只有人民，包括很多失去了家园的塞尔维亚人。
这部95年的影片，在2016年看来具有特别的意义。
今年上半年，波黑提交了加入欧盟的申请表，加入欧盟的协商和准备正式开启。
今年3月，Radovan Karadvic（片中那位波斯尼亚塞尔维亚人的军事领头）被判处40年徒刑。
看到片中大量流离失所的难民，联系到去年开始铺天盖地报道的中东难民潮，这次的中东难民潮对于很多人来说是前所未有的事情，然而纵观历史，人类的战争不休，难民就不会停止产生，欧洲境内存在大量难民，上一次也不过是20年前的事罢了。
更重要的是，2016年我们看到了民族主义，民粹主义在世界多个国家，尤其是发达国家的崛起，欧洲多国内极端右翼党派支持率攀高，在美国川普正成为总统的有力争夺者，英国公投脱离欧盟，原因之一是大量涌入的东欧移民，人们的思想状态似乎又达到了触发危险的边缘。
很多人提到上次民族主义民粹主义引发的危机都会提到二战和纳粹德国，然而南斯拉夫的死亡，同样由极端民族主义贯彻始终，距离现在也没有过去多长时间。警钟依旧长鸣。 - 确实是关于南斯拉夫解体和战争的最好纪录片。观看提醒：BBC预设的立场，即米洛克维奇是罪魁祸首，煽动塞尔维亚人的民族情绪；二是字幕问题，这是IMDB上的评论，认为翻译非常不准确，有曲解之嫌。
The format is to be blame . We see tedious talking head interviews from everybody like Slobodan Milosovic the leader of Serbia and Franjo Tudjman the leader of Croatia to leaders of the various paramilitary leaders organisations to UN soldiers to people who were kicked out their villages during the war . The irony comes in the form of Tudjman or Milisovic saying he had nothing to do with such and such an event then the interviewing cutting to a paramilitary leader saying " So the president said to me I want [ Rival ethnic group ] kicked out of the region and I will supply you with the men and guns to do it " and the interview cutting back to Milosovic or Tudjman bleating " So you see it was nothing to do with me . I was not responsible " . By trying to be ironic , if not out and out cynical , what are we audience to learn by all this ? Since the paramilitaries are very nasty people in the first place why should we entirely believe them ?
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I don't won't to waste my life by talking about politics, so my comment will be quite short and precise. The thing is that this movie is made by one side in the conflict. Which one? Of course, UK and USA. Therefor it cannot be objective in any way. In every country of Former Yugoslavia there is a opinion that there is at least 50 % of guilt for wars in Yugoslavia that could be blamed on foreign countries and their secret services, Germany and USA in particular. Also, Death and sufferings of civilians were used so many times in propaganda purposes by USA gov. The most flagrant use of media in those purposes is demonstrated in the movie that deals with making up the war in Albania ( I think that Al Pacino has a role of American president, but I'm not sure). Anyways, I am trying to be objective and pretty liberal, so, I am not putting myself in either side of the conflicts, although I come from Serbia. Nice greets to everyone!
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Whoever translated the Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian portions of this program into English ought to be ashamed of themselves. There are so many instances where the meaning of the speakers' words is obscured or distorted. Here are just a few examples:
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Speaker: "They simply could not believe their eyes, how it could all have been filmed in the offices in which they were conferring…not conferring, in which they were talking about the heinous crimes that they want to commit."
Subtitles: "They could not believe their eyes! They had been filmed planning murder and treason."
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Speaker: "They have an ethnically pure republic, they have no territorial disputes."
Subtitles: "It was an ethnically pure republic - no Serbs."
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Speaker: "I asked him if they are aware that they chose war."
Subtitles: "I said: 'This means war'."
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Speaker: "Until then, I never in my life saw a man who was as scared as him. I think that in a period of 30 minutes, he went to the toilet 10 times. Most likely he got, uh, diarrhea or something similar."
Subtitles: "I have never seen a man so scared. He went to the toilet ten times. Perhaps it was something he had for lunch."
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Such shoddy translation might be acceptable for a Hollywood action film, but it completely ruined what could have been an excellent war documentary.
Episode 3
米洛克维奇指望黑山留在联盟里，结果以前仰仗的小弟叛变了，原因是意大利允诺给黑山总统一个经济援助计划，和进入欧盟的计划。
克罗地亚失去三分之一领土，50万人流离失所。UN进驻。
Episode 4 The Gates of Hell
探究米洛克维奇的战争罪问题。
Bosnia
三分之一是serbs，和穆斯林群体和克罗地亚族发生冲突，公投，独立。
导火索：婚礼上，一位塞族父亲被杀。
Serbia and Croatia ends with the signing of an agreement
Radovan Karadžić
On 24 March 2016, he was found guilty of genocide in Srebrenica, war crimes and crimes against humanity, 10 of the 11 charges in total, and sentenced to 40 years' imprisonment.
米洛克维奇
“there is no one who can believe that there was organised genocide even organised by me.”
海牙法庭证明米洛克维奇无罪。
Episode 5 A safe area
The Srebrenica massacre
genocide[8] of more than 8,000[1][9] Muslim Bosniaks, mainly men and boy
Mladić was accused by the ICTY of being responsible for the Siege of Sarajevo (5 April 1992 to 29 February 1996) and the Srebrenica massacre.
对米洛克维奇好感增加，原来他不是个战争疯子，在OWEN提案提出的时候，是坚决主张签订的。但是波斯尼亚的塞族领导人，反对签订，丧失了最后的和平机会。
克罗地亚也派入军队，保护波斯尼亚境内的克罗地亚人。发现克罗地亚人设立的集中营。
美国干涉。要求克罗地亚退出。和波斯尼亚签订合约。
NATO干涉。俄罗斯入局。派入部队进驻萨拉热窝，让NATO空袭变为不可能。
UN无能，屠杀。空袭开始。
Episode 6
克罗地亚屠杀塞族人。the serbs have only themselves to blame. 克罗地亚总统说。
北约空袭。
波斯尼亚塞族放下武器，开始和谈。米洛克维奇作为中间人， Karadžić和Mladić 和美国代表和谈，空袭结束。新一轮塞族难民进入塞尔维亚和黑山。
波斯尼亚总统，继续进攻，而克罗地亚不再同伙。美国要求波斯尼亚停火。
Bosnia and Serbia到美国，和谈。Bosnia被分为两个state。